Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JXrDwtiqQs
ima jedna dobra knjiga koju toplo preporučam nesigurnima "Sotonski stihovi" Salman Rushdie
ima jedna dobra knjiga koju toplo preporučam nesigurnima "Sotonski stihovi" Salman Rushdie
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Bagdad je koljevka civilizacije i znanosti.Imao je preko milijun stanovnika prije 1000 godina kao naj stariji megalopolis.Arapski svijet bio je znanstveno napredan sa posebno velikim otkricima u astronomiji u vrijeme dok je crkva spaljivala na lomaci znanstvenike,tvrdila da je zemlja ravna ploca, i imala vlast na starom kontinentu.Tad je u Europi vladala bijeda,jad i mrak jer se pustilo da religija vlada a arapski svijet je cvijetao sve dok se situacija nije promjenila.Kod njih je sad vladavina religije Islama ,jad i bijeda a Europa se oslobodila i napredovala sa oduzimanjem vlasti religiji.Jadan ti je onaj narod u kom su pop i hodzasjekira wrote:Darko11 wrote: Ma da,a krscani su pobili domoroce od Australije do Juzne Amerike ,Jahve se svetio na djeci faraona i ostalih neprijatelja i nevjernika i ratovao od do.Sve je to isto samo ne smije se dopustiti da dodje do vladavine religije,tj do teokracije, kao sto se krscanstvu dogodilo u srednjem vijeku pa su "miroljubivi krscani" imali inkviziciju i lomacu za znanstvenike.To se danas dogadja u zemljama gdje dominira islam a lancana reakcija se moze odraziti i u krscanskim zemljama a jao zemlji u kojoj religija vlada.To je povratak u pecine.
Znanost je proizišla iz Crkve, da ne kažem da su svi znanstvenici bili ili redovnici, kanonici ili tek praktični vjernici dok je priča o lomačama i inkviziciji morbidno smješna i - izmišljena.
Dakle, gdje su ti Katolici bombaši samoubojice?
kadije,to zapamti.
Sta ti mislis kako su Australski i Americki domoroci,Africki crnci itd postali krscani.Noz pod grlo,tako su postali.
A evo ti malo citata iz miroljubljive biblije koju jako malo krscana je ikad procitalo,osim mozda one djecije slikovne
U gradovima onih naroda koje ti Jahve, Bog tvoj, preda u baštinu ništa ne ostavljaj na životu nego ih udari 'heremom' - kletim uništenjem
Pnz 20,16
Poslušaj, dakle, riječi Jahvine. OVAKO GOVORI Jahve nad vojskama:
Sada idi i udari na Amaleka, izvrši "herem", kleto uništenje, na njemu i na svemu što posjeduje; ne štedi ga, pobij muškarce i žene, djecu i dojenčad, goveda i ovce, deve i magarce!"
Prva knjiga o Samuelu 15, 3
Jošua nije spuštao ruke kojom bijaše zamahnuo kopljem sve dok nisu poubijani svi stanovnici Aja.
Kralja ajskoga objesi o drvo do večeri. O zapadu sunčanom zapovjedi Jošua te skinuše truplo s drveta, baciše ga pred gradska vrata i nabacaše na nj veliku gomilu kamenja, koja stoji i danas.
Jošua 8, 1-29
"Tada zagrmje (Jahve - Bog) na moje uši i reče: "Kazne grada! Pođite za njim gradom i ubijajte bez milosrđa. Oči vaše neka se ne sažale i nemajte smilovanja. Pobijte starce, mladiće, djevojke, djecu i žene; istrijebite ih sve do posljednjega."
"Prođi gradom Jeruzalemom i znakom 'tau' obilježi čela sviju koji tuguju i plaču zbog gnusoba što se u njemu čine!" .. na kome bude znak 'tau', njega ne dirajte. Počnite od mojega Svetišta!" I oni počeše od starješina koji stajahu pred Domom. I reče im: "Oskvrnite Dom moj i napunite mu predvorje truplima! Krenite!" I oni iziđoše te zaredaše ubijati gradom.
Ezekijel 9, 4-6
Proklet bio tko nemarno obavlja poslove Jahvine! Proklet bio tko krvlju mač svoj ne omasti!
Jeremija 48, 10
Trebam li mozda nastaviti sa citatima iz miroljubljive Biblije ?
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Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
ponavljaš internetske mantre.. koji su to znanstvenici spaljeni na lomači 
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Giordano Bruno je živ spaljen na lomači zajedno sa svojim knjigama
Imam jedno zanimljivo sociolosko pitanje.Zasto svi hrle u tu ateisticnu Svicarsku,Svedsku,Finsku,zemlje tako pune ateista ali i kriminala,mafije,olosa,korupcije a niko ne zeli u vjernicki arapski svijet,naj krscanskje djelove svijeta jug Italije,Meksiko,Brazil,gdje su sve moralni i posteni vjernici a kriminala,mafije,bagre,korupcije skoro pa i nema,sve narod od karaktera
Imam jedno zanimljivo sociolosko pitanje.Zasto svi hrle u tu ateisticnu Svicarsku,Svedsku,Finsku,zemlje tako pune ateista ali i kriminala,mafije,olosa,korupcije a niko ne zeli u vjernicki arapski svijet,naj krscanskje djelove svijeta jug Italije,Meksiko,Brazil,gdje su sve moralni i posteni vjernici a kriminala,mafije,bagre,korupcije skoro pa i nema,sve narod od karaktera
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Coppy paste iz Biblijesjekira wrote:copy pate starog zavjeta sa www Protagora![]()
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a procitah je za razliku od mnogih velikih vjernika i tiskanu,i Bibliju i Kuran
https://www.wordproject.org/bibles/cr/24/48.htm
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Darko11 wrote:Giordano Bruno je živ spaljen na lomači zajedno sa svojim knjigama
Imam jedno zanimljivo sociolosko pitanje.Zasto svi hrle u tu ateisticnu Svicarsku,Svedsku,Finsku,zemlje tako pune ateista ali i kriminala,mafije,olosa,korupcije a niko ne zeli u vjernicki arapski svijet,naj krscanskje djelove svijeta jug Italije,Meksiko,Brazil,gdje su sve moralni i posteni vjernici a kriminala,mafije,bagre,korupcije skoro pa i nema,sve narod od karaktera
dakle... kuham ručak žena je s klincima pa su mi upisi što kraći
Giordano Bruno za početnike http://arhiva.nacional.hr/clanak/102446 ... dano-bruno
Po čemu je Švicarska ateistička?? Čak imaju svoje kršćanske dobrovoljce u Siriji.. tvrdiš da u Italiji Meksiku i brazilu nema moralnih vjernika? sa sociološkog stajališta nisi pitanje ni postavio
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Jedna od lijevih mantri je arapska znanost nauprot "mračnoj srednjevjekovnoj Europi" e sad... imali jedna mjerna jedinica u fizici nazvana po arapskom znanstveniku.. ima li jedan matematički teorem nazvan po arapskom matematičaru, filozofska grana nazvana po arapskom filozofu... Nema.
A što se događalo u "mračnom srednjem vijeku" u Europi, osnivala su se prva Sveučilišta, osnivala ih je "antiznanstvena" Crkva.
"Ali križarski ratovi?!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ENPy0mqOE
A što se događalo u "mračnom srednjem vijeku" u Europi, osnivala su se prva Sveučilišta, osnivala ih je "antiznanstvena" Crkva.
"Ali križarski ratovi?!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ENPy0mqOE
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
prije nego odem po kupus
Ateisti postoje samo zahvaljujuči Kršćanima. Toliko o kršćanskoj prisli.
Ateisti postoje samo zahvaljujuči Kršćanima. Toliko o kršćanskoj prisli.
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Nema,zato danas i divljaju i stize nas karmasjekira wrote:Jedna od lijevih mantri je arapska znanost nauprot "mračnoj srednjevjekovnoj Europi" e sad... imali jedna mjerna jedinica u fizici nazvana po arapskom znanstveniku.. ima li jedan matematički teorem nazvan po arapskom matematičaru, filozofska grana nazvana po arapskom filozofu... Nema.
A što se događalo u "mračnom srednjem vijeku" u Europi, osnivala su se prva Sveučilišta, osnivala ih je "antiznanstvena" Crkva.
"Ali križarski ratovi?!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ENPy0mqOE
http://ahyco.uniri.hr/povijestfizike/sr ... hanika.htm
A Crkva je u srednjem vijeku donjela,mrak,smrt,uzas i zalost kao uostalom i sve religije u povijesti.Donjeli su rat,smrt i podjele medju ljudima,lazljivi popovi i hoidze,zive dobro mantajuci sirotinju a ne oru i ne kopaju.Znanost i oni nikad nisu imali niti ce imati veze.
Ne znam odakle naleti na taj kreacionisticki clanak o Brunu ali ajmo reci da je jedan od naj vecih umova Europe do svojih zakljucaka dosao magijom
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Vidim da je tema malo otišla u krivom smjeru, no kad smo se već dotakli vjere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE
Ni ovo nije loše...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oH0ReL3Cew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE
Ni ovo nije loše...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oH0ReL3Cew
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
icebug wrote:Vidim da je tema malo otišla u krivom smjeru, no kad smo se već dotakli vjere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE
Ni ovo nije loše...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oH0ReL3Cew
ovo je ništa do primitivno vrjeđanje
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Dobro.. imaš li kakav izvor za svoje tvrdnje?Darko11 wrote:sjekira wrote: A Crkva je u srednjem vijeku donjela,mrak,smrt,uzas i zalost kao uostalom i sve religije u povijesti.Donjeli su rat,smrt i podjele medju ljudima,lazljivi popovi i hoidze,zive dobro mantajuci sirotinju a ne oru i ne kopaju.Znanost i oni nikad nisu imali niti ce imati veze.
Na koji način je Crkva u srednjem vijeku donjela mrak? Otvarajući Sveučilišta?
"Znanost i oni nikad nisu imali niti ce imati veze"
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José de Acosta (1539–1600) – Jesuit missionary and naturalist who wrote one of the first detailed and realistic descriptions of the new world
François d'Aguilon (1567–1617) – Belgian Jesuit mathematician, physicist, and architect
Lorenzo Albacete (1941–2014) – priest, physicist, and theologian
Albert of Castile (c. 1460-1522) - Dominican priest and historian.
Albert of Saxony (philosopher) (c. 1320–1390) – German bishop known for his contributions to logic and physics; with Buridan he helped develop the theory that was a precursor to the modern theory of inertia[6]
Albertus Magnus (c. 1206–1280) – Dominican friar and Bishop of Regensberg who has been described as "one of the most famous precursors of modern science in the High Middle Ages."[7] Patron saint of natural sciences; Works in physics, logic, metaphysics, biology, and psychology.
Giulio Alenio (1582–1649) – Jesuit theologian, astronomer and mathematician; was sent to the Far East as a missionary and adopted a Chinese name and customs; wrote 25 books, including a cosmography and a Life of Jesus in Chinese.
José María Algué (1856–1930) – priest and meteorologist who invented the barocyclonometer
José Antonio de Alzate y Ramírez (1737–1799) – priest, scientist, historian, cartographer, and meteorologist who wrote more than thirty treatises on a variety of scientific subjects
Francesco Castracane degli Antelminelli (1817–1899) – priest and botanist who was one of the first to introduce microphotography into the study of biology
Giovanni Antonelli (1818–1872) – priest and director of the Ximenian Observatory of Florence who also collaborated on the design of a prototype of the internal combustion engine
Nicolò Arrighetti (1709–1767) – Jesuit who wrote treatises on light, heat, and electricity
Mariano Artigas (1938–2006) – Spanish physicist, philosopher and theologian who received the Templeton Foundation Prize in 1995
Giuseppe Asclepi (1706–1776) – Jesuit astronomer and physician who served as director of the Collegio Romano observatory; the lunar crater Asclepi is named after him
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Roger Bacon (c. 1214–1294) – Franciscan friar who made significant contributions to mathematics and optics and has been described as a forerunner of modern scientific method
Bernardino Baldi (1533–1617) – abbot, mathematician, and writer
Eugenio Barsanti (1821–1864) – Piarist, possible inventor of the internal combustion engine
Bartholomeus Amicus (1562–1649) – Jesuit, wrote on philosophy, mathematics, astronomy, and the concept of vacuum and its relationship with God
Daniello Bartoli (1608–1685) – Bartoli and fellow Jesuit astronomer Niccolò Zucchi are credited as probably having been the first to see the equatorial belts on the planet Jupiter
Joseph Bayma (1816–1892) – Jesuit known for work in stereochemistry and mathematics
Giacopo Belgrado (1704–1789) – Jesuit professor of mathematics and physics and court mathematician who did experimental work in physics
Mario Bettinus (1582–1657) – Jesuit philosopher, mathematician and astronomer; lunar crater Bettinus named after him
Giuseppe Biancani (1566–1624) – Jesuit astronomer, mathematician, and selenographer, after whom the crater Blancanus on the Moon is named
Jacques de Billy (1602–1679) – Jesuit who has produced a number of results in number theory which have been named after him; published several astronomical tables; the crater Billy on the Moon is named after him
Paolo Boccone (1633–1704) – Cistercian botanist who contributed to the fields of medicine and toxicology
Bernard Bolzano (1781–1848) – priest, mathematician, and logician whose other interests included metaphysics, ideas, sensation, and truth.
Anselmus de Boodt (1550–1632) – Canon who was one of the founders of mineralogy
Theodoric Borgognoni (1205–1298) – Dominican friar, Bishop of Cervia, and medieval Surgeon who made important contributions to antiseptic practice and anaesthetics
Christopher Borrus (1583–1632) – Jesuit mathematician and astronomy who made observations on the magnetic variation of the compass
Roger Joseph Boscovich (1711–1787) – Jesuit polymath known for his contributions to modern atomic theory and astronomy
Joachim Bouvet (1656–1730) – Jesuit sinologist and cartographer who did his work in China
Michał Boym (c. 1612–1659) – Jesuit who was one of the first westerners to travel within the Chinese mainland, and the author of numerous works on Asian fauna, flora and geography
Thomas Bradwardine (c. 1290–1349) – Archbishop of Canturbury and mathematician who helped develop the mean speed theorem; one of the Oxford Calculators
Martin Stanislaus Brennan (1845–1927) – priest and astronomer who wrote several books about science
Henri Breuil (1877–1961) – priest, archaeologist, anthropologist, ethnologist and geologist
Jan Brożek (1585–1652) – Polish canon, polymath, mathematician, astronomer, and physician; the most prominent Polish mathematician of the 17th century
Louis-Ovide Brunet (1826–1876) – priest, one of the founding fathers of Canadian botany
Francesco Faà di Bruno (c. 1825–1888) – priest and mathematician beatified by Pope John Paul II
Ismaël Bullialdus (1605–1694) – priest, astronomer, and member of the Royal Society; the Bullialdus crater is named in his honor
Jean Buridan (c. 1300 – after 1358) – priest who formulated early ideas of momentum and inertial motion and sowed the seeds of the Copernican revolution in Europe
Roberto Busa (1913–2011) – Jesuit, wrote a lemmatization of the complete works of St. Thomas Aquinas (Index Thomisticus) which was later digitalized by IBM
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Niccolò Cabeo (1586–1650) – Jesuit mathematician; the crater Cabeus is named in his honor
Nicholas Callan (1799–1846) – priest and Irish scientist best known for his work on the induction coil
John Cantius (1390–1473) – priest and Buridanist mathematical physicist who further developed the theory of impetus
Jean Baptiste Carnoy (1836–1899) – priest, has been called the founder of the science of cytology[by whom?]
Giovanni di Casali (died c. 1375) – Franciscan friar who provided a graphical analysis of the motion of accelerated bodies
Paolo Casati (1617–1707) – Jesuit mathematician who wrote on astronomy and vacuums; the crater Casatus on the Moon is named after him
Laurent Cassegrain (1629–1693) – priest who was the probable namesake of the Cassegrain telescope; the crater Cassegrain on the Moon is named after him
Benedetto Castelli (1578–1643) – Benedictine mathematician; long-time friend and supporter of Galileo Galilei, who was his teacher; wrote an important work on fluids in motion
Bonaventura Cavalieri (1598–1647) – Jesuate (not to be confused with Jesuit) known for his work on the problems of optics and motion, work on the precursors of infinitesimal calculus, and the introduction of logarithms to Italy; his principle in geometry partially anticipated integral calculus; the lunar crater Cavalerius is named in his honor
Antonio José Cavanilles (1745–1804) – priest and leading Spanish taxonomic botanist of the 18th century
Francesco Cetti (1726–1778) – Jesuit zoologist and mathematician
Tommaso Ceva (1648–1737) – Jesuit mathematician and professor who wrote treatises on geometry, gravity, and arithmetic
Christopher Clavius (1538–1612) – respected Jesuit astronomer and mathematician who headed the commission that yielded the Gregorian calendar; wrote influential astronomical textbook
Guy Consolmagno (1952–) – Jesuit astronomer and planetary scientist
Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543) – Renaissance astronomer and canon famous for his heliocentric cosmology that set in motion the Copernican Revolution
Vincenzo Coronelli (1650–1718) – Franciscan cosmographer, cartographer, encyclopedist, and globe-maker
George Coyne (1933–) – Jesuit astronomer and former director of the Vatican Observatory
James Cullen (mathematician) (1867–1933) – Jesuit mathematician who published what is now known as Cullen numbers in number theory
James Curley (astronomer) (1796–1889) – Jesuit, first director of Georgetown Observatory and determined the latitude and longitude of Washington, D.C.
Albert Curtz (1600–1671) – Jesuit astronomer who expanded on the works of Tycho Brahe and contributed to early understanding of the moon; the crater Curtius on the Moon is named after him
Johann Baptist Cysat (1587–1657) – Jesuit mathematician and astronomer, after whom the lunar crater Cysatus is named; published the first printed European book concerning Japan; one of the first to make use of the newly developed telescope; most important work was on comets
Jean-Baptiste Chappe d'Auteroche (1722–1769) – priest and astronomer best known for his observations of the transits of Venus
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Ignazio Danti (1536–1586) – Dominican mathematician, astronomer, cosmographer, and cartographer
Armand David (1826–1900) – Lazarist priest, zoologist, and botanist who did important work in these fields in China
Francesco Denza (1834–1894) – Barnabite meteorologist, astronomer, and director of Vatican Observatory
Václav Prokop Diviš (1698–1765) – Czech priest who studied electrical phenomenons and constructed, among other inventions, the first electrified musical instrument in history
Alberto Dou (1915–2009) – Spanish Jesuit priest who was president of the Royal Society of Mathematics, member of the Royal Academy of Natural, Physical, and Exact Sciences, and one of the foremost mathematicians of his country
Johann Dzierzon (1811–1906) – priest and pioneering apiarist who discovered the phenomenon of parthenogenesis among bees, and designed the first successful movable-frame beehive; has been described as the "father of modern apiculture"
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Francesco Faà di Bruno (c. 1825–1888) – priest and mathematician beatified by Pope John Paul II
Honoré Fabri (1607–1688) – Jesuit mathematician and physicist
Jean-Charles de la Faille (1597–1652) – Jesuit mathematician who determined the center of gravity of the sector of a circle for the first time
Gabriele Falloppio (1523–1562) – Canon and one of the most important anatomists and physicians of the sixteenth century; the Fallopian tubes, which extend from the uterus to the ovaries, are named for him
Gyula Fényi (1845–1927) – Jesuit astronomer and director of the Haynald Observatory; noted for his observations of the sun; the crater Fényi on the Moon is named after him
Louis Feuillée (1660–1732) – Minim explorer, astronomer, geographer, and botanist
Placidus Fixlmillner (1721–1791) – Benedictine priest and one of the first astronomers to compute the orbit of Uranus
Paolo Frisi (1728–1784) – priest, mathematician, and astronomer who did significant work in hydraulics
José Gabriel Funes (1963– ) – Jesuit astronomer and current director of the Vatican Observatory
Lorenzo Fazzini (1787–1837) – priest and physicist born in Vieste and working in Neaples
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Joseph Galien (1699 – c. 1762) – Dominican professor who wrote on aeronautics, hailstorms, and airships
Jean Gallois (1632–1707) – French scholar, abbot, and member of Academie des sciences
Pierre Gassendi (1592–1655) – French priest, astronomer, and mathematician who published the first data on the transit of Mercury; best known intellectual project attempted to reconcile Epicurean atomism with Christianity
Agostino Gemelli (1878–1959) – Franciscan physician and psychologist; founded Catholic University of the Sacred Heart in Milan
Johannes von Gmunden (c. 1380–1442) – Canon, mathematician, and astronomer who compiled astronomical tables; Asteroid 15955 Johannesgmunden named in his honor
Carlos de Sigüenza y Góngora (1645–1700) – priest, polymath, mathematician, astronomer, and cartographer; drew the first map of all of New Spain
Andrew Gordon (Benedictine) (1712–1751) – Benedictine monk, physicist, and inventor who made the first electric motor
Christoph Grienberger (1561–1636) – Jesuit astronomer after whom the crater Gruemberger on the Moon is named; verified Galileo's discovery of Jupiter's moons.
Francesco Maria Grimaldi (1618–1663) – Jesuit who discovered the diffraction of light (indeed coined the term "diffraction"), investigated the free fall of objects, and built and used instruments to measure geological features on the moon
Robert Grosseteste (c. 1175 – 1253) – bishop who was one of the most knowledgeable men of the Middle Ages; has been called "the first man ever to write down a complete set of steps for performing a scientific experiment"[8]
Paul Guldin (1577–1643) – Jesuit mathematician and astronomer who discovered the Guldinus theorem to determine the surface and the volume of a solid of revolution
Bartolomeu de Gusmão (1685–1724) – Jesuit known for his early work on lighter-than-air airship design
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Johann Georg Hagen (1847–1930) – Jesuit director of the Georgetown and Vatican Observatories; the crater Hagen on the Moon is named after him
Nicholas Halma (1755–1828) – French abbot, mathematician, and translator
Jean-Baptiste du Hamel (1624–1706) – French priest, natural philosopher, and secretary of the Academie Royale des Sciences
René Just Haüy (1743–1822) – priest known as the father of crystallography
Maximilian Hell (1720–1792) – Jesuit astronomer and director of the Vienna Observatory; the crater Hell on the Moon is named after him
Michał Heller (1936– ) – Polish priest, Templeton Prize winner, and prolific writer on numerous scientific topics
Lorenz Hengler (1806–1858) – priest often credited as the inventor of the horizontal pendulum
Hermann of Reichenau (1013–1054) – Benedictine historian, music theorist, astronomer, and mathematician
Pierre Marie Heude (1836–1902) – Jesuit missionary and zoologist who studied the natural history of Eastern Asia
Franz von Paula Hladnik (1773–1844) – priest and botanist who discovered several new kinds of plants, and certain genera have been named after him
Giovanni Battista Hodierna (1597–1660) – priest and astronomer who catalogued nebulous objects and developed an early microscope
Victor-Alphonse Huard (1853–1929) – priest, naturalist, educator, writer, and promoter of the natural sciences
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Maximus von Imhof (1758–1817) – German Augustinian physicist and director of the Munich Academy of Sciences
Giovanni Inghirami (1779–1851) – Italian Piarist astronomer who has a valley on the moon named after him as well as a crater
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François Jacquier (1711–1788) – Franciscan mathematician and physicist; at his death he was connected with nearly all the great scientific and literary societies of Europe
Stanley Jaki (1924–2009) – Benedictine priest and prolific writer who wrote on the relationship between science and theology
Ányos Jedlik (1800–1895) – Benedictine engineer, physicist, and inventor; considered by Hungarians and Slovaks to be the unsung father of the dynamo and electric motor
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Georg Joseph Kamel (1661–1706) – Jesuit missionary and botanist who established the first pharmacy in the Philippines
Karl Kehrle (1898–1996) – Benedictine Monk of Buckfast Abbey, England; beekeeper; world authority on bee breeding, developer of the Buckfast bee
Eusebio Kino (1645–1711) – Jesuit missionary, mathematician, astronomer and cartographer; drew maps based on his explorations first showing that California was not an island, as then believed; published an astronomical treatise in Mexico City of his observations of the Kirsch comet
Otto Kippes (1905–1994) – priest acknowledged for his work in asteroid orbit calculations; the main belt asteroid 1780 Kippes was named in his honour
Athanasius Kircher (1602–1680) – Jesuit who has been called the father of Egyptology and "Master of a hundred arts"; wrote an encyclopedia of China; one of the first people to observe microbes through a microscope
Wenceslas Pantaleon Kirwitzer (1588–1626) – Jesuit astronomer and missionary who published observations of comets
Jan Krzysztof Kluk (1739–1796) – priest, naturalist agronomist, and entomologist who wrote a multi-volume work on Polish animal life
Marian Wolfgang Koller (1792–1866) – Benedictine professor who wrote on astronomy, physics, and meteorology
Franz Xaver Kugler (1862–1929) – Jesuit chemist, mathematician, and Assyriologist who is most noted for his studies of cuneiform tablets and Babylonian astronomy
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Ramon Llull (ca. 1232 – ca. 1315) Majorcan writer and philosopher, logician and a Franciscan tertiary considered a pioneer of computation theory
Nicolas Louis de Lacaille (1713–1762) – French deacon and astronomer noted for cataloguing stars, nebulous objects, and constellations
Eugene Lafont (1837–1908) – Jesuit physicist, astronomer, and founder of the first Scientific Society in India
Antoine de Laloubère (1600–1664) – Jesuit and first mathematician to study the properties of the helix
Bernard Lamy (1640–1715) – Oratorian philosopher and mathematician who wrote on the parallelogram of forces
Pierre André Latreille (1762–1833) – priest and entomologist whose works describing insects assigned many of the insect taxa still in use today
Georges Lemaître (1894–1966) – Belgian priest and father of the Big Bang theory
Thomas Linacre (c. 1460–1524) – English priest, humanist, translator, and physician
Francis Line (1595–1675) – Jesuit magnetic clock and sundial maker who disagreed with some of the findings of Newton and Boyle
Juan Caramuel y Lobkowitz (1606–1682) – Cistercian who wrote on a variety of scientific subjects, including probability theory
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Jean Mabillon (1632–1707) – Benedictine monk and scholar, considered the founder of palaeography and diplomatics
James B. Macelwane (1883–1956) – "the best-known Jesuit seismologist" and "one of the most honored practitioners of the science of all time"; wrote the first textbook on seismology in America
John MacEnery (1797–1841) – archaeologist who investigated the Palaeolithic remains at Kents Cavern
Paul McNally (1890–1955) – Jesuit astronomer and director of Georgetown Observatory; the crater McNally on the Moon is named after him
Manuel Magri (1851–1907) – Jesuit ethnographer, archaeologist and writer; one of Malta's pioneers in archaeology
Emmanuel Maignan (1601–1676) – Minim physicist and professor of medicine who published works on gnomonics and perspective
Charles Malapert (1581–1630) – Jesuit writer, astronomer, and proponent of Aristotelian cosmology; also known for observations of sunpots and of the lunar surface, and the crater Malapert on the Moon is named after him
Nicolas Malebranche (1638–1715) – Oratorian philosopher who studied physics, optics, and the laws of motion and disseminated the ideas of Descartes and Leibniz
Marcin of Urzędów (c. 1500–1573) – priest, physician, pharmacist, and botanist
Joseph Maréchal (1878–1944) – Jesuit philosopher and psychologist
Marie-Victorin (1885–1944) – Christian Brother and botanist best known as the father of the Jardin botanique de Montréal
Edme Mariotte (c. 1620–1684) – priest and physicist who recognized Boyle's Law and wrote about the nature of color
Francesco Maurolico (1494–1575) – Benedictine who made contributions to the fields of geometry, optics, conics, mechanics, music, and astronomy, and gave the first known proof by mathematical induction
Christian Mayer (astronomer) (1719–1783) – Jesuit astronomer most noted for pioneering the study of binary stars
James Robert McConnell (1915–1999) – Irish theoretical physicist, pontifical academician, Monsignor
Gregor Mendel (1822–1884) – Augustinian monk and father of genetics
Pietro Mengoli (1626–1686) – priest and mathematician who first posed the famous Basel Problem
Giuseppe Mercalli (1850–1914) – priest, volcanologist, and director of the Vesuvius Observatory who is best remembered today for his Mercalli scale for measuring earthquakes which is still in use
Marin Mersenne (1588–1648) – Minim philosopher, mathematician, and music theorist who is often referred to as the "father of acoustics"
Paul of Middelburg (1446–1534) – Bishop of Fossombrone who wrote important works on the reform of the calendar
Maciej Miechowita (1457–1523) – Canon who wrote the first accurate geographical and ethnographical description of Eastern Europe, as well as two medical treatises
François-Napoléon-Marie Moigno (1804–1884) – Jesuit physicist and mathematician; was an expositor of science and translator rather than an original investigator
Juan Ignacio Molina (1740–1829) – Jesuit naturalist, historian, botanist, ornithologist and geographer
Louis Moréri (1643–1680) – 17th-century priest and encyclopaedist
Théodore Moret (1602–1667) – Jesuit mathematician and author of the first mathematical dissertations ever defended in Prague; the lunar crater Moretus is named after him
Landell de Moura (1861–1928) – priest and inventor who was the first to accomplish the transmission of the human voice by a wireless machine
Gabriel Mouton (1618–1694) – abbot, mathematician, astronomer, and early proponent of the metric system
Jozef Murgaš (1864–1929) – priest who contributed to wireless telegraphy and help develop mobile communications and wireless transmission of information and human voice
José Celestino Mutis (1732–1808) – Canon, botanist, and mathematician who led the Royal Botanical Expedition of the New World
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Jean François Niceron (1613–1646) – Minim mathematician who studied geometrical optics
Nicholas of Cusa (1401–1464) – Cardinal, philosopher, jurist, mathematician, astronomer, and one of the great geniuses and polymaths of the 15th century
Julius Nieuwland (1878–1936) – Holy Cross priest, known for his contributions to acetylene research and its use as the basis for one type of synthetic rubber, which eventually led to the invention of neoprene by DuPont
Jean-Antoine Nollet (1700–1770) – abbot and physicist who discovered the phenomenon of osmosis in natural membranes
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Hugo Obermaier (1877–1946) – priest, prehistorian, and anthropologist who is known for his work on the diffusion of mankind in Europe during the Ice Age, as well as his work with north Spanish cave art
William of Ockham (c. 1288 – c. 1348) – Franciscan Scholastic who wrote significant works on logic, physics, and theology; known for Ockham's Razor
Nicole Oresme (c. 1323–1382) – one of the most famous and influential philosophers of the later Middle Ages; economist, mathematician, physicist, astronomer, philosopher, theologian and Bishop of Lisieux, and competent translator; one of the most original thinkers of the 14th century
Barnaba Oriani (1752–1832) – Barnabite geodesist, astronomer and scientist whose greatest achievement was his detailed research of the planet Uranus; also known for Oriani's theorem
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Tadeusz Pacholczyk (1965–) – priest, neuroscientist and writer
Luca Pacioli (c. 1446–1517) – Franciscan friar who published several works on mathematics; often regarded as the "father of accounting"
Ignace-Gaston Pardies (1636–1673) – Jesuit physicist known for his correspondence with Newton and Descartes
Franciscus Patricius (1529–1597) – priest, cosmic theorist, philosopher, and Renaissance scholar
John Peckham (1230–1292) – Archbishop of Canterbury and early practitioner of experimental science
Nicolas Claude Fabri de Peiresc (1580–1637) – abbot and astromer who discovered the Orion Nebula; lunar crater Peirescius named in his honor
Stephen Joseph Perry (1833–1889) – Jesuit astronomer and Fellow of the Royal Society; made frequent observations of Jupiter's satellites, of stellar occultations, of comets, of meteorites, of sun spots, and faculae
Giambattista Pianciani (1784–1862) – Jesuit mathematician and physicist
Giuseppe Piazzi (1746–1826) – Theatine mathematician and astronomer who discovered Ceres, today known as the largest member of the asteroid belt; also did important work cataloguing stars
Jean Picard (1620–1682) – priest and first person to measure the size of the Earth to a reasonable degree of accuracy; also developed what became the standard method for measuring the right ascension of a celestial object; the PICARD mission, an orbiting solar observatory, is named in his honor
Edward Pigot (1858–1929) – Jesuit seismologist and astronomer
Alexandre Guy Pingré (1711–1796) – French priest astronomer and naval geographer; the crater Pingré on the Moon is named after him, as is the asteroid 12719 Pingré
Andrew Pinsent (1966–) – priest whose current research includes the application of insights from autism and social cognition to 'second-person' accounts of moral perception and character formation; his previous scientific research contributed to the DELPHI experiment at CERN
Jean Baptiste François Pitra (1812–1889) – Benedictine cardinal, archaeologist and theologian who noteworthy for his great archaeological discoveries
Charles Plumier (1646–1704) – Minim friar who is considered one of the most important botanical explorers of his time
Marcin Odlanicki Poczobutt (1728–1810) – Jesuit astronomer and mathematician; granted the title of the King's Astronomer; the crater Poczobutt on the Moon is named after him
Léon Abel Provancher (1820–1892) – priest and naturalist devoted to the study and description of the fauna and flora of Canada; his pioneer work won for him the appellation of the "father of natural history in Canada"
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Louis Receveur (1757–1788) – Franciscan naturalist and astronomer; described as being as close as one could get to being an ecologist in the 18th century
Franz Reinzer (1661–1708) – Jesuit who wrote an in-depth meteorological, astrological, and political compendium covering topics such as comets, meteors, lightning, winds, fossils, metals, bodies of water, and subterranean treasures and secrets of the earth
Louis Rendu (1789–1859) – bishop who wrote an important book on the mechanisms of glacial motion; the Rendu Glacier, Alaska, US and Mount Rendu, Antarctica are named for him
Vincenzo Riccati (1707–1775) – Italian Jesuit mathematician and physicist
Matteo Ricci (1552–1610) – one of the founding fathers of the Jesuit China Mission and co-author of the first European-Chinese dictionary
Giovanni Battista Riccioli (1598–1671) – Jesuit astronomer who authored Almagestum novum, an influential encyclopedia of astronomy; the first person to measure the rate of acceleration of a freely falling body; created a selenograph with Father Grimaldi that now adorns the entrance at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C.
Richard of Wallingford (1292–1336) – abbot, renowned clockmaker, and one of the initiators of western trigonometry
Johannes Ruysch (c. 1460–1533) – priest, explorer, cartographer, and astronomer who created the second oldest known printed representation of the New World
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Giovanni Girolamo Saccheri (1667–1733) – Jesuit mathematician and geometer
Johannes de Sacrobosco (c. 1195 – c. 1256) – Irish monk and astronomer who wrote the authoritative medieval astronomy text Tractatus de Sphaera; his Algorismus was the first text to introduce Hindu-Arabic numerals and procedures into the European university curriculum; the lunar crater Sacrobosco is named after him
Gregoire de Saint-Vincent (1584–1667) – Jesuit mathematician who made important contributions to the study of the hyperbola
Alphonse Antonio de Sarasa (1618–1667) – Jesuit mathematician who contributed to the understanding of logarithms
Christoph Scheiner (c. 1573–1650) – Jesuit physicist, astronomer, and inventor of the pantograph; wrote on a wide range of scientific subjects
Wilhelm Schmidt (linguist) (1868–1954) – Austrian priest, linguist, anthropologist, and ethnologist
George Schoener (1864–1941) – priest who became known in the United States as the "Padre of the Roses" for his experiments in rose breeding
Gaspar Schott (1608–1666) – Jesuit physicist, astronomer, and natural philosopher who is most widely known for his works on hydraulic and mechanical instruments
Franz Paula von Schrank (1747–1835) – priest, botanist, entomologist, and prolific writer
Berthold Schwarz (c. 14th century) – Franciscan friar and reputed inventor of gunpowder and firearms
Anton Maria Schyrleus of Rheita (1604–1660) – Capuchin astronomer and optrician who built Kepler's telescope
George Mary Searle (1839–1918) – Paulist astronomer and professor who discovered six galaxies
Angelo Secchi (1818–1878) – Jesuit pioneer in astronomical spectroscopy, and one of the first scientists to state authoritatively that the sun is a star
Alessandro Serpieri (1823–1885) – priest, astronomer, and seismologist who studied shooting stars, and was the first to introduce the concept of the seismic radiant
Gerolamo Sersale (1584–1654) – Jesuit astronomer and selenographer; his map of the moon can be seen in the Naval Observatory of San Fernando; the lunar crater Sirsalis is named after him
Benedict Sestini (1816–1890) – Jesuit astronomer, mathematician and architect; studied sunspots and eclipses; wrote textbooks on a variety of mathematical subjects
René François Walter de Sluse (1622–1685) – Canon and mathematician with a family of curves named after him
Domingo de Soto (1494–1560) – Spanish Dominican priest and professor at the University of Salamanca; in his commentaries to Aristotle he proposed that free falling bodies undergo constant acceleration
Lazzaro Spallanzani (1729–1799) – priest, biologist, and physiologist who made important contributions to the experimental study of bodily functions, animal reproduction, and essentially discovered echolocation; his research of biogenesis paved the way for the investigations of Louis Pasteur
Valentin Stansel (1621–1705) – Jesuit astronomer who made important observations of comets
Johan Stein (1871–1951) – Jesuit astronomer and director of the Vatican Observatory, which he modernized and relocated to Castel Gandolfo; the crater Stein on the far side of the Moon is named after him
Nicolas Steno (1638–1686) – Bishop beatified by Pope John Paul II who is often called the father of geology[9] and stratigraphy,[7] and is known for Steno's principles
Pope Sylvester II (c. 946–1003) – Prolific scholar who endorsed and promoted Arabic knowledge of arithmetic, mathematics, and astronomy in Europe, reintroducing the abacus and armillary sphere which had been lost to Europe since the end of the Greco-Roman era
Alexius Sylvius Polonus (1593 – c. 1653) – Jesuit astronomer who studied sunspots and published a work on calendariography
Ignacije Szentmartony (1718–1793) – Jesuit cartographer, mathematician, and astronomer who became a member of the expedition that worked on the rearrangement of the frontiers among colonies in South America
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André Tacquet (1612–1660) – Jesuit mathematician whose work laid the groundwork for the eventual discovery of calculus
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1881–1955) – Jesuit paleontologist and geologist who took part in the discovery of Peking Man
Francesco Lana de Terzi (c. 1631–1687) – Jesuit referred to as the Father of Aviation[10] for his pioneering efforts; he also developed a blind writing alphabet prior to Braille.
Theodoric of Freiberg (c. 1250 – c. 1310) – Dominican theologian and physicist who gave the first correct geometrical analysis of the rainbow
Joseph Tiefenthaler (1710–1785) – Jesuit who was one of the earliest European geographers to write about India
Giuseppe Toaldo (1719–1797) – priest and physicist who studied atmospheric electricity and did important work with lightning rods; the asteroid 23685 Toaldo is named for him
José Torrubia (c. 1700–1768) – Franciscan linguist, scientist, collector of fossils and books, and writer on historical, political and religious subjects
Franz de Paula Triesnecker (1745–1817) – Jesuit astronomer and director of the Vienna Observatory; published a number of treatises on astronomy and geography; the crater Triesnecker on the Moon is named after him
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Luca Valerio (1552–1618) – Jesuit mathematician who developed ways to find volumes and centers of gravity of solid bodies
Pierre Varignon (1654–1722) – priest and mathematician whose principle contributions were to statics and mechanics; created a mechanical explanation of gravitation
Jacques de Vaucanson (1709–1782) – French Minim friar inventor and artist who was responsible for the creation of impressive and innovative automata and machines such as the first completely automated loom
Giovanni Battista Venturi (1746–1822) – priest who discovered the Venturi effect
Fausto Veranzio (c. 1551–1617) – Bishop, polymath, inventor, and lexicographer
Ferdinand Verbiest (1623–1688) – Jesuit astronomer and mathematician; designed what some claim to be the first ever self-propelled vehicle, which many claim this as the world's first automobile
Francesco de Vico (1805–1848) – Jesuit astronomer who discovered or co-discovered a number of comets; also made observations of Saturn and the gaps in its rings; the lunar crater De Vico and the asteroid 20103 de Vico are named after him
Vincent of Beauvais (c.1190–c.1264) – Dominican who wrote the most influential encyclopedia of the Middle Ages
Benito Viñes (1837–1893) – Jesuit meteorologist who made the first weather model to predict the trajectory of a hurricane[11][12][13]
János Vitéz (archbishop) (c.1405–1472) – Archbishop, astronomer, and mathematician
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Martin Waldseemüller (c. 1470–1520) – German priest and cartographer who, along with Matthias Ringmann, is credited with the first recorded usage of the word America
Godefroy Wendelin (1580–1667) – priest and astronomer who recognized that Kepler's third law applied to the satellites of Jupiter; the lunar crate Vendelinus is named in his honor
Johannes Werner (1468–1522) – priest, mathematician, astronomer, and geographer
Witelo (c. 1230 – after 1280, before 1314) – Friar, physicist, natural philosopher, and mathematician; lunar crater Vitello named in his honor; his Perspectiva powerfully influenced later scientists, in particular Johannes Kepler
Julian Tenison Woods (1832–1889) – Passionist geologist and mineralogist
Theodor Wulf (1868–1946) – Jesuit physicist who was one of the first experimenters to detect excess atmospheric radiation
Franz Xaver von Wulfen (1728–1805) – Jesuit botanist, mineralogist, and alpinist
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John Zahm (1851–1921) – Holy Cross priest and South American explorer
Giuseppe Zamboni (1776–1846) – priest and physicist who invented the Zamboni pile, an early electric battery similar to the Voltaic pile
Francesco Zantedeschi (1797–1873) – priest who was among the first to recognize the marked absorption by the atmosphere of red, yellow, and green light; published papers on the production of electric currents in closed circuits by the approach and withdrawal of a magnet, thereby anticipating Michael Faraday's classical experiments of 1831[14]
Niccolò Zucchi (1586–1670) – claimed to have tried to build a reflecting telescope in 1616 but abandoned the idea (maybe due to the poor quality of the mirror);[15] may have been the first to see the belts on the planet Jupiter (1630)[16]
Giovanni Battista Zupi (c. 1590–1650) – Jesuit astronomer, mathematician, and first person to discover that the planet Mercury had orbital phases; the crater Zupus on the Moon is named after him
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Svatko ko ne može svoje subjektivne stavove potkrijepiti činjenicama, ovo shvaća kao vrijeđanje.sjekira wrote: ovo je ništa do primitivno vrjeđanje
Također, o primitivizmu bi se dalo raspravljati. Nekak ja više vjerujem Darwinu, a rebrima je mjesto u pećnici s krumpirima
A kad malo pogledamo u povijest, naviše ljudi na svijetu je poubijano upravo u ime (nekog) boga ili vjere (cca. preko 190.000.000 ljudi) i ta brojka očigledno i dalje raste.
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Darwinova teorija je još uvijek samo teorija.. vidiš i ti si vjernik.icebug wrote:Svatko ko ne može svoje subjektivne stavove potkrijepiti činjenicama, ovo shvaća kao vrijeđanje.sjekira wrote: ovo je ništa do primitivno vrjeđanje
Također, o primitivizmu bi se dalo raspravljati. Nekak ja više vjerujem Darwinu, a rebrima je mjesto u pećnici s krumpirima![]()
A kad malo pogledamo u povijest, naviše ljudi na svijetu je poubijano upravo u ime (nekog) boga ili vjere (cca. preko 190.000.000 ljudi) i ta brojka očigledno i dalje raste.
Ajmo malo pogledati povijest... koji su to vjerski ratovi odnjeli koliko života?
Da odmah presječem,križarski ratovi nisu bili vjerski već potaknuti europskim feudalnim ratničkim elitama...
Treći Reich, samo šest milijuna židova o drugima da ne pričam, zabranjen vjeronauk do djetetove 18 godine do tada dijete je smjelo biti izloženo samo nacionalsocijalističkom učenju (zanimljivo u kontekstu ovog foruma zabranjeno je posjedovanje oružja privatnih osoba) SSSR + ostale komunističke zemlje 94 000 000 žrtava, zabranjen vjeronauk, zabranjeno oružje...
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Onako na prvu loptu mi djeluješ inteligentan, načitan, a moguće čak i akademski obrazovan.
Ovo što pišeš mi je totalno nespojivo s ovim gorenavedenim.
Ajde priznaj sam sebi da je čovjek izmislio vjeru i boga, kako bi ništa drugo nego kontrolirao mase.
Pustimo sad Treći Reich i SSSR, ne miješajmo kruške i jabuke.
Igrom slučaja, svjedok sam svakodnevnog ubijanja ljudi u ime boga i izopačene vjere.
Ko hoće nek vjeruje, ne smeta mi, al nemoj me peglat budalaštinama i uvjeravat u nešto što je nespojivo s realnošću.
Ovo što pišeš mi je totalno nespojivo s ovim gorenavedenim.
Ajde priznaj sam sebi da je čovjek izmislio vjeru i boga, kako bi ništa drugo nego kontrolirao mase.
Pustimo sad Treći Reich i SSSR, ne miješajmo kruške i jabuke.
Igrom slučaja, svjedok sam svakodnevnog ubijanja ljudi u ime boga i izopačene vjere.
Ko hoće nek vjeruje, ne smeta mi, al nemoj me peglat budalaštinama i uvjeravat u nešto što je nespojivo s realnošću.
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Ako teologiju smatras znanoscu ,onnda crkva prednjaci sa sveucilistima i znanstvenicima
Da smo svi slusali religisku bandu a ne znanstvenike i sad bi bili u pecinama i palili zrtve paljenice Odinu i Jahvi i skupljali lemuzinu popovima makar djeca bla gladna.Nemoj mi ih molim te usporedjivati sa znanoscu jer to je znanstvena hereza.
Tebi su oni svetinja meni Tesla i ostali znanstvenici.Jedni su krivi za mrznju prema drugacijima i huskanje na ratove ,drugi za koliko toliko udoban i slobodan zivot danas.Vise je covjecanstvu vrijedio mali prst jednog velikog Tesle,nego svi Pape i svecenici u povijesti covjecanstva.
Da smo svi slusali religisku bandu a ne znanstvenike i sad bi bili u pecinama i palili zrtve paljenice Odinu i Jahvi i skupljali lemuzinu popovima makar djeca bla gladna.Nemoj mi ih molim te usporedjivati sa znanoscu jer to je znanstvena hereza.
Tebi su oni svetinja meni Tesla i ostali znanstvenici.Jedni su krivi za mrznju prema drugacijima i huskanje na ratove ,drugi za koliko toliko udoban i slobodan zivot danas.Vise je covjecanstvu vrijedio mali prst jednog velikog Tesle,nego svi Pape i svecenici u povijesti covjecanstva.
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
Pa ako ćemo baš pošteno i sa gledišta neke mentalne slobode ja sam prvi PROTIV da djeci roditelji odmah po rođenju prikrpe pripadnost religiji i da ih se odgaja kako trebaju biti pnizni, pokorni, samo slušati i vjerovati u čuda koji se ne mogu dokazati.sjekira wrote:....., zabranjen vjeronauk do djetetove 18 godine do tada dijete je smjelo biti izloženo samo nacionalsocijalističkom učenju ......
Ne treba mi ni kršćanstvo , ni islam ni budizam, da djecu odgojim što je dobro, a što je loše. Kada djeca postanu ljudi i postanu mentalno zreli neka se opredjele žele li imati neke veze sa religijom ili ne.
Drugi veliki problem je suprostaviti se katoličkoj crkvi u bilo kojem pogledu jer svi moramo shvatiti da je to FIRMA-poduzeće-korporacija koja svoj program razvija do sitnih detlja više od 2000g, prilagođava se trendovima i situaciji puno brže nego mi to mislimo. Puno ulažu u znanje u svojim redovima, na svim poljima i definitivno su nadmoćni ma što got mi mislili o tome.
Maknemo li hoby ( priče o vjeri ) iz te firme što ostej:
- besplatno školovanje do akademskog nivoa
- besplatna hrana
- besplatan smještaj, putovanja,
- raspolaganje gotovinom bez poreznog nadzora
- auti po želji
- najbolje nekretnine na svijetu
- ne plaćanje poreza
- besplatna zdravstvena zaštita
- osigurana potpora i pomoć za vrijeme mirovine
- na kraju i besplatan pogreb
- i naravno puno curica za koje službeno nitko ne zna..
I tko ne bi voliko imati poduzeće sa takvim mogućnostima za SEBE i svoje zaposlenike.
Zapamtite: "Budite dobri vjernici i šlušajte što Vam propovjedamo" ( ni slučajno ne gledajte što mi radimo ) !!!
Nemoguće je Nemoguće
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
kolega da vas pitam samo... jeste čuli, recimo, za Ruđera Boškovića i Kopernika, Newtona, Lamarcka...? mislim.. da prekinemo ovu uzaludnu priču... Tko su ti ljudi bili?Darko11 wrote:Ako teologiju smatras znanoscu ,onnda crkva prednjaci sa sveucilistima i znanstvenicima![]()
Da smo svi slusali religisku bandu a ne znanstvenike i sad bi bili u pecinama i palili zrtve paljenice Odinu i Jahvi i skupljali lemuzinu popovima makar djeca bla gladna.Nemoj mi ih molim te usporedjivati sa znanoscu jer to je znanstvena hereza.
Tebi su oni svetinja meni Tesla i ostali znanstvenici.Jedni su krivi za mrznju prema drugacijima i huskanje na ratove ,drugi za koliko toliko udoban i slobodan zivot danas.Vise je covjecanstvu vrijedio mali prst jednog velikog Tesle,nego svi Pape i svecenici u povijesti covjecanstva.
Re: Pucanje po meti velicine kamiona
icebug wrote:Onako na prvu loptu mi djeluješ inteligentan, načitan, a moguće čak i akademski obrazovan.
Ovo što pišeš mi je totalno nespojivo s ovim gorenavedenim.
Ajde priznaj sam sebi da je čovjek izmislio vjeru i boga, kako bi ništa drugo nego kontrolirao mase.
Pustimo sad Treći Reich i SSSR, ne miješajmo kruške i jabuke.
Igrom slučaja, svjedok sam svakodnevnog ubijanja ljudi u ime boga i izopačene vjere.
Ko hoće nek vjeruje, ne smeta mi, al nemoj me peglat budalaštinama i uvjeravat u nešto što je nespojivo s realnošću.
da akademski sam obrazovan kao svi s kojima se družimo supruga i ja... supruga se krstila u 30 i nekoj na svoju inicijativu.. doktori medicine, dr. elektrotehnike, farmaceuti, ing. strojarstva.. ljudi koji nas okružuju su religiozni, neki su postali to u odrasloj dobi kao npr. ja.. što je teško za shvatiti? statistički većina dr. medicine su praktični vjernici (statistički broj katolika na svjetu raste brže od broja stanovnika na planeti..)
Iz iskustva znam da su najveći kritičari vjere općenito, katolicizma posebno iz nekog razloga, oni koji sami o tome ne znaju niti su imali odakle upoznati se njom. Obično raspolažu nekolicinom mantri o imovini i nasljeđivanju, upražnjavanjem seksa i pedofilijom (po zanimanjima statistički kao pedofili se najčešće javljaju informatičari i odvjetnici) i sličnim nonsensima negirajući apsolutno sve, na prilično infantilan način.
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