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ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 01:53
by zmenk
neznam sta bi uzea. vidim dimenzije ali neznam kako to izgelda kad se stavi jedno kraj drugoga.
ima u splitu od united cutler brandsa kupiti set za 150 kn isti mot (malo ruzniji) al neznam kakva je kvaliteta
ima li ko koji savjet

Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 02:32
by stari-nakovanj
…kvaliteta je 50 KN po nozu, a to onda nije noz za bacanje nego za baciti – isprobano!
sta se hibbena tice, uzeo je frend jedan za bacanje prije 10-tak godina za 250 KN i izivljavo se na njemu zestoko par godina. izgleda slicno kao ovi na tvojim slikama, samo sto je on dobio koznu futrolu. vrh se malo spigao (pa smo zravnali) i pukao par milimetara (pa smo pobrusili), sto i nije lose nakon godina bacanja.
ako ces hitati te ostrice, toplo preporucam da se klonis nehrdajucih celika.
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 07:09
by Mike_Torello
ja imam starog Hibbena, Thrower III, 10" overall... iskruvio ga jednom kad sam ga propicio kroz drsku od drugog noza u meti... stavio na nakovanj i sa 2 odmjerena udarca 800g. cekicem vradio u ravninu, ostecenja vrlo malo vidljiva a noz sam stvarno zlostavljao, bacao u usku dasku koja je bila naslonjena na zeljeznicki "pijesak" i dosta fulao =)
to je ovaj najveci na slici ali je moja futrola kvalitetnija od ove prikazane... a evo ga i u mojoj kolekciji =)
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 10:23
by nobile157
Hibben je svakako za tu lovu odličan, ali ako hoćeš dobar nož za bacanje, onda Cold Steel ima svakakvih jeftakuša za bacanje, a sigurno su dobri, crni, kvalitetni.
A vidi ovu kolekciju:
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 13:10
by Knife_maniac
To tvoja kolekcija ???

Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 19:20
by Knife_maniac
Spyderco obitelj.
1. neznam a na gore idu:
spot
rescue
Centofante
delica
delica stainless
preko puta njih je byrd cara cara
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 19:22
by nobile157
Da, to je bila moja kolekcija, neke stvari sam prodao, ali još uvijek imam dosta toga. Sliku sam probao staviti veću, ali morao sam smanjiti jer nije prihvaćalo, neznam zašto. Ima li nekih posebnih pitanja?
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 19:24
by nobile157
Spyderco sam imao više komada, ostavio sam si samo Stretch, nož koji je vlasnik Spyderca dizajnirao za sebe. Na netu košta 350 $ i to verzija sa ručkom od kratona, ja imam čeličnu sa gumenim umecima.
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 23:00
by zmenk
Mike_Torello wrote:ja imam starog Hibbena, Thrower III, 10" overall... iskruvio ga jednom kad sam ga propicio kroz drsku od drugog noza u meti... stavio na nakovanj i sa 2 odmjerena udarca 800g. cekicem vradio u ravninu, ostecenja vrlo malo vidljiva a noz sam stvarno zlostavljao, bacao u usku dasku koja je bila naslonjena na zeljeznicki "pijesak" i dosta fulao =)
to je ovaj najveci na slici ali je moja futrola kvalitetnija od ove prikazane... a evo ga i u mojoj kolekciji =)
e taj iman u katalogu ovog ducana iz splita cijena u cjenku ne pise. bas cu otici pogledat. koliko si ga ti platio
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 20 Sep 2008, 23:10
by zmenk
About 420 J2 Stainless steel
Overview:
420 J2 is a general purpose stainless steel containing medium quantity of carbon. It has good corrosion resistance qualities in mild atmosphere, domestic and industrial environments. It is resistant to ammonia, blood, carbonic acid, crude oil, detergent solutions, dilute nitric acid, fresh water, food acids, many petroleum products, steam and vinegar etc. It has good strength and reasonable impact resistant properties in both hardened and tempered conditions as compared to 440 grades.
It is also called Surgical Steel, because it is being used in production of surgical instruments on large scale around the world, due to its good corrosion resistant and easily machining qualities. It is also being used in cutting tools like; Knifes, Daggers, Swords, Haircutting Scissors and Domestic scissors. It’s grinding is easy and it produces a fine, vivid and smooth polished surface.
420 steel, due to its excellent hardenability, it is capable of getting hardened up to 54 HRC Rockwell or higher depending upon carbon contents. Small sections can be air cooled and larger sections should be oil quenched for maximum hardness.
Heat Treatment
Sub-Critical Annealing:
Heat uniformly to 730 oC - 790 oC and hold until temperature is uniform throughout the section.
-Soak as required, cool in air.
Annealing
Heat uniformly to 840 oC - 900 oC and hold until temperature is uniform throughout the section.
-Soak as required. Cool in furnace.
Hardening
Heat to 950 oC - 1020 oC and hold until temperature is uniform throughout the section. Quench in oil or air cool. Temper immediately while still hand touch warm.
Note: Hardening from 1020 oC - 1060 oC will give optimum corrosion resistance, but hardening upto 980 oC will give the best combination of corrosion resistance and mechanical properties.
Tempering
Min – Max: Heat to 650 oC - 750 oC and hold until temperature is uniform throughout the section.
-Soak as required. Cool in air.
Tempering within the range 150 oC - 200 oC will give optimum corrosion resistance and maximum hardness - up to 54 HRC depending upon section size. Tempering however within the range 400 oC - 550 oC should be avoided due to temper brittleness, resulting in a considerable reduction in impact resistant properties and loss of corrosion resistance.
*Heating temperatures, rates of heating, cooling and soaking times will vary due to factors such as work piece size / shape, also furnace type employed, quenching medium and work piece transfer facilities etc.
Machining
420 is machinable in both the hardened and tempered conditions such as drilling, turning and bending. But it is recommended that machining in hardened condition should be avoided.
Welding
420 is not generally recommended for welding in either the annealed or hardened and tempered conditions, due to its air hardening capability which can lead to the formation of brittleness, resulting in cold cracking due to contraction stresses within the weld and heat affected zones. The higher the carbon content, the higher the hardening capability and greater risk of cracking. But despite all this, it is still easy to weld as compared to 440C grade.
Pre heating and interpass temperature control during welding, plus very slow cooling and post-weld annealing is the best method to prevent cracking.
Composition
Chemical Composition ranges of 420 J2 stainless steel
Grade 420 J2
Ingredients
Min.
Max.
Carbon
0.15
0.36
Manganese
- 1.00
Silicon
- 1.00
* Nickel
- 1.00
Phosphorus
- 0.04
Sulphur
- 0.03
Chromium
12.00
14.00
*Nickel addition is optional.
420 Related Specifications
USA
Germany
Japan
Australia
Great Britain
ASTM A276-98b 420
SAE 51420 AISI 420
UNS S42000
W.Nr 1.4021 X20Cr13
W.Nr 1.4028 X30Cr13
JIS G4303 SuS 420 J1 and SUS 420 J2
AS 2837-1986 420
BS970 Part3 1991 420S37
BS970 Part4 1970/73 420S45
BS970 1955 EN56C and EN56D
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 21 Sep 2008, 18:39
by Mike_Torello
zmenk wrote:e taj iman u katalogu ovog ducana iz splita cijena u cjenku ne pise. bas cu otici pogledat. koliko si ga ti platio
kostao je 208kn pred nekih 10 godina, s tim da sam ga dobio za 200kn u trgovini, uz njega dobio rashodovani tramontina brazil veliki bowie s sjebanom futrolom, na njoj jos jedan manji nozic, 3 futrole za macete razlicitih velicina od toga mi je sada ostala samo jedna, srednja, kao skrojena za moju macetu =) dobio sam jos brdo kataloga i promo materijala, igrao se s onom velikom Indiana Jones macetom (alaj je bila teska), sto mogu, šarmirao sam trgovkinje pa jel =) otisao kuci s punim naramkom =)
ako ga mislis bacati nemoj ga ostriti, dobar je i tvornicki... ako ces ga koristiti za finjaka onda ga naostri... ja sam svoj bacao pa naostrio pa me uhvati pa bacao opet i ubio ostricu u šljunku i kamenju, pa opet naostrio i bacao... sad je naostren nekih 2-3cm nakon vrha, prema vrhu je malo tuplji, za slucaj da me opet uhvati zelja za bacanjem. Tu i tamo ga frknem u vocnjak, ono, kad tjeram susjedove kokosi, djecu ili ako nemogu dozvati tatu (nagluh je) =)

Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 21 Sep 2008, 18:58
by zmenk
ma ja se mislim malo zezat i bacat ga da vidin kako ce to ici
jel ga mos lsikat u ruci
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 23 Sep 2008, 20:21
by Mike_Torello
evo ga
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 24 Sep 2008, 17:49
by Original_G
a kaj veliš na ovo:
http://minishop.t-com.hr/replikart/Prod ... d=8&gid=32
nije preskupo, izdržljivo je, a i može se upotrebiti i za koju drugu namjenu....
ja imam, i izdržao je sva moja maltretiranja, bez nekih oštećenja...
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 24 Sep 2008, 18:05
by Knife_maniac
Nabavite ovo i nema frke
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 24 Sep 2008, 21:20
by patch
Knife, gdje si to iskopao?
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 24 Sep 2008, 21:46
by nobile157
To je radio Uljanik za vrijeme rata za jednu specijalnu postrojbu HV-a koja je imala sjedište na Katarini u Puli. Imam i ja jedan, ako ga nekome nisam dao.
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 24 Sep 2008, 22:28
by Knife_maniac
JoZ@ wrote:ma nemogu vjerovat
si to dobil od nekog il zaduzil u davna vremena

To je braticev. Zakaj ??
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 25 Sep 2008, 02:12
by zmenk
mike puno hvala
Re: ima li ko ovo?!
Posted: 25 Sep 2008, 09:07
by tigi
iste takve su imali izvidnici u tigrovima, sjećam se da je moj frend imao isti takav al da me ubiješ ka je snjim napravil pojma nemam?