POGON ZA PROIZVODNJU STRELJIVA

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Re: POGON ZA PROIZVODNJU STRELJIVA

Post by Papilon » 18 Mar 2013, 17:10

A zakaj lock....pa tema je kao i sve...slobodna za raspravu... :o
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Re: POGON ZA PROIZVODNJU STRELJIVA

Post by zhrvoje » 18 Mar 2013, 17:16

Poanta je u tome da radi ovakvih mnogo nas koji se bave (ili su se bavili) reloadingom samo za vlastite potrebe danas prekidaju sve aktivnosti prodaju opremu i svasta nesto radi straha od policije. A inace nas nitko ne bi dirao iako smo stavljeni izvan zakona.
I onda bi ovakve jos trebali branit i bit "kolegijalni"...
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Re: POGON ZA PROIZVODNJU STRELJIVA

Post by jolly » 18 Mar 2013, 17:44

Interesantno je da i Amerikanci imaju isti stav prema reloadingu za osobnu uporabu i prodaji istog - govorim pritom o nasem starom zakonu - nas novi zakon, naravno mijenja pristup temi iz osnova.
Evo, dakle sto Amerikanci kazu - cisto radi usporedbe (skinuo sam im sa foruma).
Ukratko - za osobnu uporabu moze, za prodaju ne moze, ali interesantno je kako opisuju namjeru stjecanja zarade, a kazne su im drasticne:

: Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?
Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.
Ahh, but there's the trick question. It doesn't say you can't sell ammo, it says you can't "engage in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit". That piece you posted is from an FAQ, not the actual law.

There is some ambiguity in the ATF regs quoted as it doesn't address the guy who sells some to a buddy every now in then.
Those terms, "engaged in business" and "purpose of livelihood and profit" are specifically defined in Federal Law. From the wording of Federal Law it would appear to me that selling reloads to a friend who doesn't want to mess with it is clearly "personal use", not "engaged in the business" but go read the statute yourself. It seems pretty clear to me.

18 USC 44

(21) The term "engaged in the business" means—

(B) as applied to a manufacturer of ammunition, a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufac- turing ammunition as a regular course of trade or business]/b] with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the ammunition manufactured;
Quote:
(22) The term "with the principal objective of livelihood and profit" means that the intent underlying the sale or disposition of firearms is pre- dominantly one of obtaining livelihood and pecuniary gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liq- uidating a personal firearms collection:
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Re: POGON ZA PROIZVODNJU STRELJIVA

Post by Lars » 18 Mar 2013, 18:44

Nije toliki problem što je punio. Problem je što je prodavao, a najveći problem što
se ne zna tko je sve kupovao i onda dalje.....

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Re: POGON ZA PROIZVODNJU STRELJIVA

Post by Papilon » 21 Mar 2013, 07:41

Eto napokon istine....a ne iznošenja nekih imaginarnih zabrana
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