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Post by jolly » 13 Jun 2013, 09:53

Svaki put kad naletim na neku skracenicu koja mi nije poznata, trazim po internetu.
Kad sam pogledao po forumu pomocu pretraznika, ovom tematikom se niko nije bavio, odnosno barem ja nisam uspio naci.

Da skratim, ako kome bude trebalo, evo lista razlicitih skracenica kod oznacavanja streljiva, a ako neko ima jos koju, nek samo dopuni pa da sve bude na jednom mjestu.

+P = Contains a higher powder charge than normal (10-15% overpressure).
+P+ = Contains a much higher powder charge than normal (20-25% overpressure).
A = A-Frame (Swift)
ACC = Accelerator
ACEL = Accelerator Discharging (or Discarding) Sabots
ACP = Auto Colt Pistol
A-MAX = Polymer tipped long range target bullet (Hornady)
AP = Armor Piercing (has a steel or other hard metal core) (Military)
API = Armor Piercing Incendiary (Military)
APT = Armor Piercing Tracer (Military)
APTI = Armor Piercing Tracer Incendiary (Military)
AT-BT = AccuTip Boat Tail (Remington)
BBWC = Bevel Base Wad Cutter
BD or Ball, Duplex = M198 - Contains two bullets (Military)
BEB = Brass Enclosed Base
BEE = FP varmint bullet for .218 Bee (Hornady)
BJHP = Brass Jacketed Hollow Point
BP = Bronze Point
BT = Boat Tail, also Black Talon (Winchester)
BTBT = Ballistic Tip BoatTail (Nosler)
BTHP = Boat Tail Hollow Point
BTM = Boat Tail Match
BTSP = Boat Tail Soft Point
C/T = Combat Target (Hornady)
CB = Cast Bullet
CL = Core-Lokt (Remington)
CL-SIL = Cannelure - Silhouette (Hornady)
CLU = Core-Lokt Ultra (Remington)
CMJ = Complete Metal Jacket
CNL = Conical Nose Lead
CP = Cone Point
DEWC = Double Ended Wad Cutter - can load either way (Cast Bullet)
DPX = Deep Penetrating X (Cor-Bon cartridge with a Barnes X all copper hollow-point bullet)
EFMJ = Expanding Full Metal Jacket (Federal)
EP = Expanding Point
FEB = Fully Encased Bullet
FMC = Full Metal Case
FMJ = Full Metal Jacket
FMJBT = Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail
FMJ-ENC = Full Metal Jacket - Encapsulated (Hornady)
FMJFN = Full Metal Jacket Flat Nose
FMJFP = Full Metal Jacket Flat Point
FMJRN = Full Metal Jacket Round Nose
FMJRP = Full Metal Jacket Round Point
FMJSWC = Full Metal Jacket Semi-Wad Cutter
FMJTC = Full Metal Jacket Truncated Cone
FN = Flat Nose
FNEB = Flat Nose Enclosed Base
FNSP = Flat Nose Soft Point
FP = Flat Point
FS or Fail-Safe = Partition bullet with steel bands around lead cores. (Winchester)
FST = Fail Safe Talon
GAP = Glock Auto Pistol
GC = Gas Check (Cast Bullet)
GD = Gold Dot (Speer)
GDHP = Gold Dot Hollow Point
GS = Golden Saber (Remington)
GS = Grand Slam (CCI)
HAP = Hornady Action Pistol (Hornady)
HBWC = Hollow Base Wad Cutter
HC = Hard Cast
HE = High Energy
HM = Heavy Magnum
HMR = Hornady Magnum Rimfire
HORNET = Extra thin jacket for .22 Hornet (Hornady)
HP = Hollow Point
HPBT = Hollow Point Boat Tail
HPJ = High Performance Jacketed
HPWC = Hollow Point Wad Cutter
HS = Hydra Shok (Federal)
HS & HS2 = Hi Shok & Hi Shok 2 (Federal)
HSP = Hornady Soft Point, also Hollow Soft Point
HST = (no actual meaning) a type of hollow-point (Federal)
I = Interlock (Hornady)
IB = Interbond (Hornady)
IRT = Indoor Range Training (Federal)
J = Jacketed
JET = FP for 22 Rem Jet revolver (Hornady)
JFP = Jacketed Flat Point
JHC = Jacketed Hollow Cavity, (Sierra jacketed hollow point)
JHP = Jacketed Hollow Point
JHPBT = Jacketed Hollow Point Boat Tail
JSP = Jacketed Soft Point
JSPF = Jacketed Soft Point Flat
JSZ = Jacketed Stranded Zinc (Federal)
L = Lead
LBT = Lead Bullet Technology
LF = Lead Free (Nontoxic)
LFN = Long Flat Nose (LBT design), also Lead Flat Nose
LFP = Lead Flat Point
LGC = Lead Gas Check (Cast Bullet)
LHP = Lead Hollow Point
LM = Light Magnum
L-N-L = Lock-N-Load (Hornady)
LRN = Lead Round Nose
LSWC = Lead Semi-Wad Cutter
LSWC-GC = Lead Semi-Wad Cutter, Gas Checked
L-C = Lead Combat
L-T = Lead Target
LTC = Lead Truncated Cone
LWC = Lead Wad Cutter
MB = Multi Ball (Shot)
MC = Metal Cased (basically FMJ)
MJ = Metal Jacket
MK-BTHP = MatchKing Boat Tail Hollow Point (Remington)
MON = Monolithic Solid
MRWC = Mid-Range Wadcutter
MR-X = Improved TS with poly tip & tungsten rear core (Barnes)
NBT = Nosler Ballistic Tip
NOS = Nosler
NOSBT = Nosler Ballistic Tip
NP = Nosler Partition
P = Plated
PB = Parabellum
PG = Partition Gold (Winchester)
PL = Power-Lokt
PP = Power Point
Pro-Tex Bore = Lead bullet with a zinc washer cast in base (Cast Bullet)
PSP = Pointed Soft Point
PSPCL = Pointed Soft Point Core-Lokt (Remington)
R.E.A.L. = Rifling-Engraved-At-Loading (Lee muzzle loader bullet)
RN = Round Nose
RNFP = Round Nose Flat Point
RNL = Round Nosed Lead
RNSP = Round Nose Soft Point
RHT = Reduced Hazard Training (Federal and CCI/Speer low toxicity bullet)
S&W = Smith and Wesson
SBBT = Soft Point Boat Tail
SCHP = Solid Copper Hollow Point
SFHP = Starfire Hollow Point (PMC)
SHP = Speer Hollow Point
SJ = Semi Jacketed, also Short Jacket (Hornady)
SJHP = Semi Jacketed Hollow Point, also Soft Jacket Hollow Point
SJSP = Soft Jacket Soft Point
SLAP = Saboted Light Armor Penetrating
SOL = Solid
SP = Soft Point, also Spire Point, also Spotter-Tracer (Military)
SPSX = Spire Point Super Explosive (Hornady)
SPTZ = Spitzer
SSB = Swift Scirocco Bonded (Remington)
SSP = Single-Shot Pistol (Hornady)
SST = Super Shock Tip (Hornady)
ST = Silver Tip HP (Winchester)
STHP = SilverTip Hollow Point (Winchester)
Sub = Subsonic
SWC = Semi Wad Cutter
SX = Super Explosive
SXT = Supreme Expansion Technology (Winchester)
TAP FPD = Tactical Ammunition Police - For Personal Defense (Hornady)
TB = Trophy Bonded
TBS = Trophy Bonded Solid
TC = Truncated Cone
TCMJ = Truncated Cone Metal Jacket
TCSP = Truncated Cone Soft Point
THP = Tubular Hollow Point
TL = Tumble Lube (Lee)
TMJ = Total Metal Jacket -- like FMJ, but the copper jacket even wraps the rear of the bullet and totally encapsulates the lead. Also CMJ, FEB
TNT = TNT hollow point (Speer)
TRI = Triad Group (A Square)
TRU = Tactical Rifle Urban (Federal)
TS or Triple-Shock = Improved X-bullet (Barnes)
UHC = Ultra High Coefficient (Hornady)
VLD = Very Low Drag
V-MAX = V-Max Polymer Tip Varmint Hunting Bullet (Hornady)
V-MAXBT = V-Max Boat Tail (Hornady)
W/C = With Cannelure (Hornady)
WC = Wad Cutter
WLN = Wide Long Nose (LBT design)
WLY = Woodleigh
WMR = Winchester Magnum Rimfire
WSM = Winchester Short Magnum
WSSM = Winchester Super Short Magnum
X or X-bullet = Solid copper hollow-point bullet (Barnes)
XP3 = FS without the steel bands (Winchester)
XTP = Extreme Terminal Performance (Hornady jacketed hollow point)
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Post by sin » 13 Jun 2013, 10:28

OMG - Oh My God, Oh My Goodness ili Oh My Gosh ;)
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Post by jolly » 13 Jun 2013, 13:38

Skracenice za mali kalibar:

Najpoznatije:
22 S – Short
22 L – Long
22 LR – Long Rifle
22 WMR – Winchester magnum rimfire

Manje poznate:
22 BB Cap - Bulleted Breech Cap
22 CB Cap - Conical Ball Cap, known as a 6mm Flobert in Europe
22 EL - Extra Long
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Post by jolly » 17 Jun 2013, 06:29

Ima jos:

SPCE - soft point cutting edge
PTS - plastic tip special
HPC - hollow point cawled
SBT - Soft boat tail
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Post by Spinnaker » 17 Jun 2013, 11:25

svaka čast

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Post by lex-lutor » 17 Jun 2013, 12:56

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Post by jolly » 17 Jun 2013, 14:11

Ufffff! Ovo je crni humor!
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Post by jolly » 24 Jun 2013, 06:14

Nekako mi promaklo:

BMG - Browning Machine Gun - odnosi se na cal 0.50, za strojnicu M2 i ostale VK puske....
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Post by jolly » 06 Dec 2013, 17:57

Trenutna diskusija oko 308 win, "zastava" me podsjetila da jos nesto dodam o nomenklaturi streljiva:

Dok je evropska nomenklatura prilicno jasna, na pr: 7.62 x 39, ili 9 x 19, gdje prva oznaka oznacava promjer zrna a druga duzinu cahure u milimetrima, americko je nesto slozenije i cesto izlazi cak i iz vlastitih ustaljenih obicaja.

Pa eto:
Ako metak ima oznaku na 3 decimale, poput 308 win, 357 mag, to oznacava (moderni) metak konstruiran iskljucivo za bezdimni barut.

MODERNI BEZDIMNI METAK:
Nadje se, naravno, izuzetaka poput 30-06, ili neposrednne pretece 30-03 ali to tumacim cinjenicom da je to jedan od prvih metaka konstruiranih u svijetu na bezdimni, pa je uzet dvoznamenkasti broj za oznaku kalibra, i godina pocetka proizvodnje.
To jest - jos se nije ustalilo neko pravilo u 1903, ili 1906 godini.

BEZDIMNI IZVEDEN OD METKA NA CB:
Za metke koji su nominalno bili konstruirani za crni barut, a kasnije su prilagodjeni za bezdimni - ide oznaka kalibra (naravno u inchima) na dvije decimale poput:
38 special
45 colt
22 lr

CRNI BARUT:
Kod metaka na crni barut sa cahurom (19 st) uvrijezilo se i ovo:
oznaka kalibra na dvije decimale x standardno punjenje crnog baruta u grainima.
Primjer: 45 x 70 govt.

Wildcat meci (u prijevodu "divlja macka", nema veze sa wad cutterima):
Oznacavaju metke koji su uveli pojedini konstruktori od standardiziranih cahura, smanjivanjem ili povecavanjem grla cahure i kombinacijama razlicitih punjenja, radi postizanja vece preciznosti, snage ili brzine u ovisnosti od namjene.
Mislim da se i ovdje radi uglavnom o americkim patentima.

Ako se sjetim jos poneceg, budem dodao.....
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Post by Woolf Blaser » 06 Dec 2013, 18:40

O yeah!!! Dolazi vikend pa ak uspijem sve procitat (citaj, zapamtiti) mozda jos pridodam nekaj!

De mi, molim te, objasni kak stane u onu hilznu od 45/70 Gaverment 70 grs baruta!?
Nemam nikakva iskustva sa crnim barutom, pa je pitanje mozda glupo!? Ako je tako onda
vjerojatno crni barut je ustvari ,prah,, pa mu je specificna tezina ,veca, u odnosu na volumen.

Usput, 45/70 Gaverment je omiljeni kalibar Engleske gospode u lovovima na divlje svinje.
Pucaju iz prelamaca (polozara) bez optika, tj samo mehanicki nisani, jel smatraju da je to
viteski i korektno prema divljaci.

Bome ga ne pune sa crnim barutom, pa pitam onak, cisto iz radoznalosti, a i da malo zacinimo
temu... :mrgreen:
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Post by jolly » 06 Dec 2013, 19:03

Woolf Blaser wrote:O yeah!!! Dolazi vikend pa ak uspijem sve procitat (citaj, zapamtiti) mozda jos pridodam nekaj!
He, he... :mrgreen: bas sam imao neki osjecaj da ces se javiti, jer sam vidio da si on-line...
Woolf Blaser wrote: De mi, molim te, objasni kak stane u onu hilznu od 45/70 Gaverment 70 grs baruta!?
Nemam nikakva iskustva sa crnim barutom, pa je pitanje mozda glupo!? Ako je tako onda
vjerojatno crni barut je ustvari ,prah,, pa mu je specificna tezina ,veca, u odnosu na volumen.
Iskreno... ne znam kako im stane, ali sad bi trebalo isceprkati dimenzije cahure pa vidjeti.
Inace, u cilindar od mog colta 1860 army (bez cahure-necjeloviti metak), u svaku od 6 komora mi stane bez problema 30 graina CB, filcani cep, i kugla, i ostane jos malo praznog prostora pri vrhu da stavim masti.

Inace, grain je mjera za tezinu, a ne za volumen - pa mozda u tome treba taziti objasnjenje. Kako si i sam naveo.

A moram priznati da si me pitanjem natjerao da preispitam svoje znanje iz povijesti razvoja oruzja, pa sam upravo bacio oko na wikipediju. :idea:

Evo sto kaze:

.45 : nominal bullet diameter, in decimal inches i.e. 0.458 inches (11.63 mm)
70 : mass of powder in grains.

izvor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45-70

dakle, cinjenicno sam u pravu. kako to izvedose - hmmm, a valjda im stane sve unutra u tu cahuru...a cb je valjda malo tezi

Inace, ajde da dodam - postoji jedna bitna razlika izmedju CB i bezdimnog kod uzimanja mjera za punjenje:
Za CB - mozes slobodno uzeti mjere pomocu volumne mjerice koja je bazdirana na graine, pa ako falis u volumenu / tezini za "koje zrnce" - nikom nista, zbog ekspanzivnih karakteristika crnog baruta.

Kod bezdimnog, tolerancija za greske - je puno niza jer su mu expanziona svojstva sasvim drugacija.

Kod bezdimnog, mislim da treba mjeriti tezinu precizno, a ne volumen, u nijednom slucaju.
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Post by jolly » 06 Dec 2013, 19:16

Woolf Blaser wrote:Ako je tako onda
vjerojatno crni barut je ustvari ,prah,, pa mu je specificna tezina ,veca, u odnosu na volumen.
Da u pravu si. Crni barut su zrnca.
Finoca se mjeri po granulaciji. 3F, 2F, 1F - odnosno FFF, FF, F.
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Post by Woolf Blaser » 06 Dec 2013, 19:32

Puno hvala. Znao sam da budem nekaj naucil.
Dobar ti je post, e sad je lako ,kenjati,, palo mi na pamet da ne bi mozda bilo lose to malo
rasclaniti, tj oznake po proizvodjacima, cisto da bude malo ,razumnije,, jel ima dosta proizvodjaca
koji koriste istu komponentu sa drugacijom oznakom. Npr Nosller partition (NP) je isto ono
sto Sako oznacava sa AH (Aarow head), a Winchesterov PG (Partition gold) je Noslerovo zrno
Partition, samo ,presvuceno, medijem slicnog sastava kao sto ima Norma diamond line...
Ima toga jako,jako puno, ali pokusat ce mo ,obraditi, one najcesce...
Hm, stvarno si se dobro sjetio...i vrlo korisno...vel done dude!
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Post by jolly » 06 Dec 2013, 19:39

Da, u pravu si, s tim da pokedini proizvodjaci iz komercijalnih razloga i marketinga nerijtko iskacu iz pravila da bi se bolje plasirali na trzistu.

Sve u svemu - ova tema ima potencijala da se lijepo obradi, kako i sam velis.
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Post by Woolf Blaser » 06 Dec 2013, 19:47

Je, bas zvuci ,mocno,, Partition GOLD,...zamusali su zrna u neku ,prasinu, koja kao nesto...
za performanse i lov potpuno nebitno, jel se u lovu najcesce puca samo jedan metak, u vecini
slucajeva iz ciste cijevi...koristio sam 338 Win Mag, 16,2 gr Partition gold i jedina ,prednost, je
bila ta da sam morao vise cistiti...25 kn komad...fck gold...
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Post by jolly » 06 Dec 2013, 19:51

Pa sam si rekao... kosta ko zlato.... ;)
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Post by Woolf Blaser » 06 Dec 2013, 20:03

Ali zato je SST Hornady 225 grs popravio situaciju...hihihi...i Kemira N-160...73 grs...i primers
Federal Gold medal match...hihihi...
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Post by Woolf Blaser » 07 Dec 2013, 19:26

Nisam vidio da si imao dva posta za redom,tj procitao sam samo zadnji post, a ocigledno da
je doslo do nesporazuma!

Naravno da znam da je grain mjera za tezinu, a ne za volumen!!! Mora da si bio umoran ili
pospan kad nisi skonto doduse moj neprecizni post, ali razjasnit ce mo sada...

Kada sam spomenio ,vecu specificnu tezinu u odnosu na volumen,, mislio sam na recimo
da imas dvije ,mjerice, za barut istog volumena, da je tezi crni barut od klasicnog, npr nitroceluloznog
baruta.

Primjer; Od klasicnih kalibara koji se danas koriste, najvise ,glavobolje, su imali lovci koji su
punili 7-64 (dok je bilo dozvoljeno)! Naime, factory elaboracije koje propisuje proizvodjac baruta
za taj kalibar i vrstu zrna koju lovac zeli koristiti u startu imaju problem, jel ta kolicina baruta
jednostavno ne stane u cauru!? Raditi compressor load nije preporucljivo, a svejedno posto
7-64 koristi spore (magnum) barute i izvorno je napravljen za duzinu cijevi od 65 cm, svejedno
nema ni posebnog efekta raditi compressor load. Malo sam zapetljao, ali shvatit ces...
Recimo Kemirin barut jednobazicni, oznake N-160 koji se preporucuje za teza zrna u kalibru
7-64, proizvodjac preporuca srednju tezinu baruta oko 54 grs, ali toliko ga jednostavno ne
stane u cauru!!! Problem mozes rijesiti tako da koristis dvobazicni barut u istoj klasi ( U ovom
slucaju N-560), njega stane bez problema u cauru, zasto, zato sto u odnosu na volumen koji
imaju jednobazicni baruti, imaju manju tezinu u odnosu na dvobazicne barute.

Dvobazicni baruti bez obzira sto imaju bolje performanse od jednobazicnih ipak nisu rado
koristeni od strane lovaca koji puno love i od sportskih strijelaca iz razloga sto sagorijevaju
na vecim temperaturama od jednobazicnih baruta i samim time utjecu negativno na ,zivotni,
vijek cijevi.

Dakle, crni barut ima vecu specificnu tezinu u odnosu na volumen nitroceluloznih baruta,
koliko je to u postotcima ne znam, ali volio bih znati...LP
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Re: Skracenice u oznacavanju streljiva (Bullet acronyms)

Post by jolly » 08 Dec 2013, 04:35

Woolf, imas li spoznaje o vrstama bezdimnih baruta, primjeni i oznacavanju, a da se to moze nekako sistematski prikazati.
Recimo: pistoljski baruti, i puscani?
Razlika puscanih i ovih za sacmarice, i da li se to moze ustanoviti kroz oznake?
Spori, brzi?
Itd...

Pitam jer sam tu prilicno tanak, a moglo bi lijepo nadopuniti temu.
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Re: Skracenice u oznacavanju streljiva (Bullet acronyms)

Post by Woolf Blaser » 08 Dec 2013, 11:56

Naravno da imam! Koristio sam komponente nekoliko proizvodjaca u raznim ,klasama,!
Nije nikakav problem, sve proizvodjac tocno navede. Metak se napravi bez problema, ali
dobar metak ili vrhunski za svoje oruzje...e tu se treba pomuciti...osobno znam 6-7 elemenata koji
se ucine na metku da se poboljsa preciznost...ali to je druga i duga prica...meni omiljena...zakonom
zabranjena...s obzirom da je tako niti ima smisla, niti korektnosti prema ovome forumu pisati o
tome...a ni sam ne zelim...budi gorcinu u meni...jer je zabranjeno. Ja sam apolitican, ali zbog
reloadinga (izmedju ostalog) jedva cekam da ovi komunisti odu s vlasti...i da se vise nikad ne vrate...
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